MUTINEE AT McMCRD?

Here is the situation.

You are in a U.S. Mcorps Platoon at Marine Corps Recruit Depot (MCRD), San Diego, California. The "buddy" program has created a situation where several buddies from one ethnic group who know each other prior to Recruit Training are in the same platoon. When the Platoon is being punished for group failure, the members of this ethnic group refuse to do any more push-ups. They simply stop.

What do you do if you are that Platoon's Senior Drill Instructor?

What would you do if you were a private in the platoon not a part of the clique refusing to do push ups?

E-Mail us with your solutions!

Solution #1


"Hmmm.....

Tough one, though there are several options....

One is to exercise unit level punishment up to and including Article 15, .... however there is a twist to this, as "standing together" is not neccesarily a bad thing. In fact, it would be good to punish the insubordinates together, as they committed the offense together. But they should be hammered like tent pegs.

At that stage of the Soldierization process, allowing any insubordinate conduct is simply not an option. I would definitely consider these men for recycle, confinement, or discharge. Might the specter of EEO be raised because these "ethnics" chose their ethnicity to seperate themselves thereby indirectly but effectively causing a racial incident?

One way to never have had the situation develop was to NOT HAVE GROUP PUNISHMENT or the robot like atmosphere of MCRD. I have always thought that artificially induced "suffering" was a poor way to administer mass "justice". I always thought that holding individuals accountable for their actions was the best policy, but to also make sure that their immediate leaders felt some heat for the fact that their people failed to perform. On the rare occasions that we had a belligerent refusal to train, the CO made sure that the entire company was on hand to witness the UCMJ in action. One idiot, knowing his rights under the UCMJ, requested a summary court vs an article 15. No sweat. He spent some 60 days in confinement and was either recycled or discharged. I think he was discharged. A simple refusal to train or to qual on the rifle would have netted him a non characteristic seperation. This guy had to push the issue and wound up with a bad discharge.

What did happen?

Solution #2 (Author's ideas)


"Here is my current thinking.

I'm the Senior DI.

I call in the entire ethnic mafia and "take my smokey hat off".

I level with them. I tell them that they have to decide if they are going to be Marines or not.

If not, we will discharge them.

You cannot quit and abandon your fellow men.

We have screwed up here by not explaining the "game" to you. The idea is for us to be the bad guys representing the enemy and for you all in the Platoon to turn to each other and work together, not turn on each other. We have also tried to just run you into the ground until you humiliate yourselves, this is our mistake. But remember, in combat the enemy will not stop until he KILLS YOU. If you do your absolute best, then that's all you can do. But you have to try. This platoon needs a victory.

This is YOUR MARINE CORPS. Those are YOUR Marines you are in the platoon together with. I am asking you to open your heart and make EVERY MARINE your brother. I can't make you do it, but I am asking.

Whether you choose to stay or go is up to you.

But I will promise you this, from now on my Drill Instructors and I are going to start treating you as our brothers, regardless---because we are Americans, and most importantly we are human beings. We are in this together. You ARE my brothers.

I need a written statement from each one of you what you want to do. You can talk amongst yourselves also. Those that want to stay will be welcomed back in the Platoon, and I will have a heart-to-heart talk with everyone on this matter. Those that want to go will be processed out without prejudice since WE have failed YOU by not showing you leadership-by-example from "a band of brothers". If you stay, it will not be easy we have a lot to catch up on, but I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO if you put your mind to it. Now its in your hands.

Semper Fi!

Smokey Hat goes back on.

Solution #3

"Dear Sir, Ran across your web page by accident, LOVE IT, OUTSTANDING! I am a marine who graduated from Paris Island S.C. and I read the question about the recruits who refuse to do anymore push ups. I am instantly reminded of the definition of Discipline: The instant willingness and obedience to orders, self reliance, and teamwork SIR! If I were the DI in this platoon I would quickly jump knee deep in their chests and commence to inform them at how undisciplined they are and that this disobedience to orders is why they will not be Marines and they have a choice to make, Get on their face and get ready for another 20min. of IPT or I will escort them to the Platoon Commander to be removed from training. I don't know if this would be correct in your eyes but I have seen this very thing happen. Anyway great site keep up the good work.

Sincerely,

XXXX XXXX USMC 87-91"

,/b> WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AT MCRD?


What was described really did take place at MCRD. They canned one of our Junior DIs and brought in a Junior DI of the same ethnic origination as the clique in question. He was a nicer guy and said a prayer at night that we repeated.."Our Father who art in heaven..." etc But the problem was never really solved. The ethnic Mafia refused to give their all, and our platoon as a whole suffered. We really hated each other! But on another level we were GLAD they resisted the DIs because it made them stop torturing us in the "pit". Also, towards the end, we were so used to pit drills the punishment began to no longer faze us, anyway. That was only at the very end and caught us by surprise.

What I saw happening was the clique seeing their humanity driven into the ground and they said enough was enough. So they could do no more push ups. So the rest of the platoon sank. We lost an opportunity to get them on our side. They left MCRD with a less than optimistic attitude of the Mc! I vowed to never stand by silent to situations that could be corrected.

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